@m_magalhaes said in What's the state of Ngons in Python?:

About the bugs on the forum, we have introduce few month ago new tags "Bug report" and "Bug Fixed". We are also adding some tag in our bug database to retrieve faster the post on the forum. I know it's not perfect and sometimes we may forgot to add this tag on the first post of the thread. But it's better than nothing.

Yeah, I'll try to use that in the future although it probably won't affect existing threads (a lot of valuable knowledge still resides in the "old forum" parts).

@Cairyn said in What's the state of Ngons in Python?:

Anyway, I don't think this issue is of huge interest as you said there's a replacement in the new kernel already, which will probably come with a diferent tesselation algorithm, so I present it here as a curiosity.

Don't get me wrong, all modeling command have been migrated to the new modeling kernel. If you are using SendModelingCommand, it will use the new kernel.
So what you see now in S22 and R23 (ok you will see in R23) IS the new kernel. There will be no better tesselation.
I consider this as a bug.

As a Perpetual user, I'm still on R21 (as tagged) so is this also the new kernel? AFAIK the new kernel has been working behind the API for a while now, being gradually introduced into the functionality, so it's possible that this bug still persists.

I can't test it on a demo of S22 for you, as the current licensing does not allow me to install one.

The new modeling kernel isn't exposed yet. But it is used. I understand, it's a bit confusing. We are moving Cinema4D to the new core. But as long as some part of Cinema4D are using the old system (object manager for exemple), the new core need to "translate" that to the classic API. (...)
I hope it's clear.

Sure, I have a few decades of programming under the belt. It's just a bit difficult as non-Maxon developer to see the details. Seeing only the API (and therefore the user-side of the translation layer), I can't always tell what the underlying data model really is; what's stored as attribute, what's calculated on the fly, what's internally cached for fast access, what's abstracted and what's plainly stored... I may make wrong assumptions on the internal workings.

this look like a valid ngon but i will ask 🙂

It probably is valid - I don't see a reason why it should be forbidden. I just notice that the tesselation algorithm tends to avoid such "inner polygons". That may not be intentional (based on a rule) though, but just a consequence of how the algorithm works.

Thanks again,
-- Cairyn --

Thanks zipit and Maxime,

I use the MSG_BASECONTAINER solution now,
thanks for the example !

one question here:
you always return True from the message() function
is that necessary?

the docs here
https://developers.maxon.net/docs/py/2023_2/manuals/introduction/python_tag.html?highlight=python plugin
just says :
Return type: bool
Returns: Depends on the message type.

...

and a bit off topic :
is there a message, when a python tag or generator gets enabled / disabled by the (generator) switch in the object manager?
can i catch that?

yupyup, BaseSelect has no connection to the original object it actually selects from, not even in the cases where you get a pointer to the BaseSelect returned and change the selection directly through it.

That's why we need the max parameter for SelectAll and ToggleAll -- the BaseSelect doesn't know what "all" even is. (Not GetLastElement()!) For GetRange() though, that reasoning does not apply.

Now let's see whether I can crash C4D with inconsistent edge selections...

Hi:

This is a bit of a hassle, but can still be scripted, who CARES about an extra polygon.

import c4d def main(): polygons = op.GetAllPolygons() points = op.GetAllPoints() point = [c4d.Vector(10000, 10000, 10000),c4d.Vector(9999, 10000,10000), c4d.Vector(9999, 10000, 10001),c4d.Vector(10000, 10000, 10001)] point_indexe = [[len(points) + i ,point[i]] for i in range(len(point))] op.ResizeObject(len(points) + len(point),len(polygons) + 1) set_point = [op.SetPoint(k[0], k[1]) for k in point_indexe] op.Message(c4d.MSG_UPDATE) c4d.EventAdd() if __name__=='__main__': main()

@gheyret great to hear! Looking forward to seeing what it is you are creating.

Thank you so much, this works like a charm!!!

@m_magalhaes Thanks, Manuel! 👍

@m_adam Thank you for the update, Maxime!

hi

can we considered this thread as resolved ?

Cheers,
Manuel

@android Here's a thread for reference regarding the limitation of a Generator spline:
https://developers.maxon.net/forum/topic/12596/is-it-possible-to-get-a-spline-wrap-object-to-use-a-python-generated-spline

Hi,

jeah, that is probably somewhat the reason. Although Python has true statically typed arrays, which also can be used to directly in-place manipulate C arrays (i.e. array.array), from what I understand it is quite cumbersome to achieve such linkage. This is probably the reason why Maxon does not bother in this case and others like for example vertex colors. Including these access points is still a bit puzzling though. Maybe they are somehow used internally? But I cannot think of a case where this would make sense.

Cheers,
zipit

hi,

Group is the key in UI. Simply add a SCALE_H; property for your slider. so for that two columns group, the slider will take all the place minus the button.

GROUP { COLUMNS 2; REAL ONEFLOAT { CUSTOMGUI REALSLIDER; SCALE_H;} BITMAPBUTTON BUTTON_ID { SIZE 16; TOGGLE; BUTTON; ICONID1 5160; ICONID2 5159; } }

Cheers,
Manuel

@m_magalhaes

Thanks! It works as expected.
So that's what you mean by UniformToNatural. Basically, even if the segment guides are not the same as spline points, it will conform to its overall shape.

hi,

everything have been said, nothing to add here 🙂

Cheers,
Manuel

hi,

Since R20, arguments have been added, and the problem is coming from the last one 🙂

def HeaderClick(self, root, userdata, lColID, lChannel, bDblClk, mouseX, mouseY, ua):

I've opened a bug report

Cheers,
Manuel

@ivodow
how is your ConsolePrint() different to a simple print() statement?
in my test i didn''t get a real time output with ConsolePrint()

best, index

Hi,

This have been fixe and will be available in a futur update.

Cheers,
Manuel

hi

can we considered this thread as solved ? (even if there's no real right answer)

Cheers,
Manuel

hi,

except what @zipit said, there's nothing outof the box that you can use in our API to do it.
You have to come with your own solution.

Remotion have create such a tool few years ago:
https://bitbucket.org/remotion/code-editor-gui-for-c4d/downloads/

I would say that it's not really hard to do, it's just long and during the path you are walking to build such a tool, you could find some walls that you didn't expect ^^'

I would start using the function GetDParameter, check the content and change the color of some words accordingly.

Cheers,
Manuel

@m_magalhaes said in Change the default name of ID_OBJECTPROPERTIES:

DEFAULT 1;

Thank you much.