passing arrays as parameters

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On 30/03/2012 at 04:37, xxxxxxxx wrote:

hi,

thanks for your answer, but please consider i am a newb can you please explain what is
meant with this pointer construction. not sure if i was conceptual unprecise, but i want to
create/declare a variable within a call.

foo( create here new variable defined nowhere else in the code )

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On 30/03/2012 at 04:48, xxxxxxxx wrote:

The pointer points at the address of the first element of an array (look up arrays and pointers in c++). If you create your array (no matter if before or in the function call) you will get that pointer that you can pass.

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On 30/03/2012 at 09:55, xxxxxxxx wrote:

You can't do that within the parantheses.

http://codepad.org/eTZ9drKy

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On 30/03/2012 at 10:27, xxxxxxxx wrote:

using the new operator or a smart pointer would probably work but it really doesn't make much sense (or create a mem leak), Niklas is right. Why don't you declare it outside littledevil?

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On 30/03/2012 at 11:07, xxxxxxxx wrote:

well, i am declaring it outside right now, however i am used to this feature from c# and it is not life
saving important but a handy feature. i have asked this question on german speaking c++ forum too
and they came up with these solutions and some pages of tech gibberish :

1. this pointer thing samir suggested ( i still don't fully understand althought i am aware of the
pointer nature of arrays).
2. using c++ 11
3. extrernal libs

so i am booking this under *not possible in c++*. i am often just baffled how heavy-handed c++ is
compared to modern languages like c#.

edit : here is the link (i hope this is okay, as linking other forums sometimes is considered as a nogo)

http://www.c-plusplus.de/forum/301582

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On 30/03/2012 at 15:47, xxxxxxxx wrote:

C++ doesn't have automated memory handling (i.e.: garbage collection) like some more modern programming languages. Therefore, all memory management is in the hands of the programmer. I know, scary!

Pointers aren't just for arrays. Pointers are just variable notation that stores the memory address of another variable (whether it is an array, class, or built-in type). It is a way to pass along larger chunks of memory without passing the entire chunk through the cpu registers.

The problem with allocating memory in the arguments of a function/method for C++ are that there is no path to free (deallocate) that memory. Arguments are placed on the stack (preallocated memory for the application) while allocations are typically created in the heap (general memory space available to the application).

Might I suggest either using Python (since it has garbage collection) or reading "Memory as a Programming Concept in C and C++" by Frantisek Franek. The C4D Python API isn't as powerful and extensive as the C++ API currently. The book is only a couple hundred pages but provides a very good introduction, explanation, and advantageous uses of C++ memory management.

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On 31/03/2012 at 04:34, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

this pointer thing samir suggested ( i still don't fully understand althought i am aware of the pointer nature of arrays).

2. using c++ 11

3. external libs

1. This is the clean way to do it And it's also super simple. Declare the array in your code before using the function, allocate it and call your function later and after you're done with the array, don't forget to free it.

  
Bool foo (LONG *myarray, LONG count)   
{   
if (!myarray || count == 0) return FALSE;   
  
// As an example: Fill the array with numbers   
LONG i;   
for (i = 0; i < count; i++)   
{   
    myarray[i] = i*i;   
}   
  
return TRUE;   
}   
  
Bool PrintArray(LONG *myarray, LONG count)   
{   
if (!myarray || count == 0) return FALSE;   
  
LONG i;   
for (i = 0; i < count; i++)   
{   
    GePrint("Array[" + LongToString(i) + "] = " + LongToString(myarray[i]));   
}   
  
return TRUE;   
}   
  
...   
...   
  
void main()   
{   
const LONG count = 100;   
  
// Allocate array   
LONG *arr = GeAllocType(LONG, count);   
if (!arr)   
{   
    GePrint("Error allocating the array");   
    return;   
}   
  
// Fill the array   
if (!foo(arr, count))   
    GePrint("Filing the array didn't work out.");   
else   
    GePrint("Array filled succesfully");   
  
// Do something with the filled array   
if (!PrintArray(arr, count))   
    GePrint("Could not print out array.");   
  
// Free memory   
if (arr) GeFree(arr);   
}

You could also allocate the array in the same function where it's being filled with values and then return the new array:

  
LONG* foo (LONG count)   
{   
if (count == 0) return NULL;   
  
LONG* myarray = GeAllocType(LONG, count);   
if (!myarray) return NULL;   
  
// As an example: Fill the array with numbers   
LONG i;   
for (i = 0; i < count; i++)   
{   
    myarray[i] = i*i;   
}   
  
return myarray;   
}   
  
...   
...   
  
void main()   
{   
const LONG count = 100;   
  
// Allocate array   
LONG *arr = foo(count);   
if (!arr)   
{   
    GePrint("Error allocating and filling the array");   
    return;   
}   
  
// Do something with the filled array   
if (!PrintArray(arr, count))   
    GePrint("Could not print out array.");   
  
// Free memory   
if (arr) GeFree(arr);   
}

2. The C4D API is currently not compatible with C++ 11 standard. Enabling C++ 11 in your compiler might lead to problems with the API code.

3. External libs might create extra hassle for you when compiling them for different platforms. As - quite frankly - you seem to be a beginner with C++, I would not recommend to use them.

Also, try to use the types defined in the C4D API (e.g. LONG instead of int), that will keep you from running into problems with 32 bit vs. 64 bit, different platforms and single precision vs. double precision.

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On 31/03/2012 at 05:58, xxxxxxxx wrote:

hi,

thank you for your extensive code example, it is very much appreciated. just as a sidenote, i am
aware of point 2-3 and yes i am a beginner :).

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On 31/03/2012 at 08:38, xxxxxxxx wrote:

@jack: Just a note, returning allocated memory from a function is considered bad. It's also some kind of confusing (imho).

-Niklas

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On 31/03/2012 at 08:42, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Returning memory from a method is okay as long as you are cognizant that your are 'passing' ownership from the method to somewhere else so that it can be freed properly by the new owner. The scope may be lost when returning from the method but as long as you have assigned a pointer to the new allocation that has more lasting scope, you should be okay.

Edit to add:

if (arr) GeFree(arr);

The conditional is not necessary. If 'arr' is NULL then GeFree doesn't do anything (and it won't crash). You've already checked that arr isn't NULL so it should be doubly okay. One case to remember is that if you free memory and the execution continues you should set the pointer to it equal to NULL. So, this is better:

GeFree(arr);
arr = NULL; // Make sure that it doesn't point to memory that it no longer owns!

Any subsequent GeFree() calls (such as in a destructor) will do the appropriate thing. Otherwise, you risk trying to free the same memory twice - and crash.

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On 01/04/2012 at 03:00, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

@jack: Just a note, returning allocated memory from a function is considered bad. It's also some kind of confusing (imho).

If it was considered bad, I don't think we would have any Alloc() functions in the API...

BaseObject *op = BaseObject::Alloc(Onull);

In fact, even the memory allocation is done by a function:

LONG* myarray = GeAllocType(LONG, count);

And yes, it might be confusing. But programming is a confusing thing if one does not take care Therefore, we wouldn't call this function "foo" but rather something with "Alloc".

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

if (arr) GeFree(arr);The conditional is not necessary. If 'arr' is NULL then GeFree doesn't do anything (and it won't crash). You've already checked that arr isn't NULL so it should be doubly okay.

Right, in this example it was obvious. But it'S better to have double and triple checks than to run into some surprising case (in more complex code) and have it crash on the user's machine.

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

One case to remember is that if you free memory and the execution continues you should set the pointer to it equal to NULL.

With GeFree and also with the static Free methods of the C4D API classes, that is not necessary. They set your pointer to NULL automatically (pointer reference (void*& p)). Same with the gDelete and bDelete macros.

But generally, of course, one should take care to set the pointer to NULL when any other method of memory freeing is used.

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On 01/04/2012 at 04:45, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

@jack: Just a note, returning allocated memory from a function is considered bad. It's also some kind of confusing (imho).

If it was considered bad, I don't think we would have any Alloc() functions in the API...
BaseObject *op = BaseObject::Alloc(Onull);

Sorry didn't add that. We have Free() functions according to them, which is not considered bad.
-Niklas

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On 02/04/2012 at 00:43, xxxxxxxx wrote:

hi,

i have got another question. i am still messing with my objectdata plugin. it basicly returns
different geometry types based on data entered by the user (disc,plane,sphere...). as they
extend some of basic capeabilities of c4ds baseobjects i thought it would be smart to
outsource their allocation.

currently it is something like this :

BaseObject *Opolylight::GetVirtualObjects(BaseObject *op, HierarchyHelp *hh)
{
	...
	return GetPlane(op);
}
  
static BaseObject *Opolylight::GetPlane(BaseObject *op)
{
	BaseObject *result = NULL;
	result = BaseObject::Alloc(Oplane);
  
	BaseContainer *outbc = result->GetDataInstance();
	BaseContainer *inbc = op->GetDataInstance();
  
	...
	return result;
}

i am roughly following the SDK ATOM sample. but while the atom sample is just outsourcing into
one other method form GetVirtualObjects, in my case it would make sense to have one method
for each objecttype (GetPlane, GetDisc ...).

my question is now : when the user changes the ouput from plane to disc the allocated mem from
GetPlane still remains alltough it isn't used anymore. by defining the method as static i prevent
the code from creating multiple instances, but my addon will still carry a bunch of data for each
shape the user has choosen once.

is this considered as a memory leak / bad ?

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On 02/04/2012 at 01:48, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Do you mean, the function itself still exists and redundant when not used anymore?

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On 02/04/2012 at 01:56, xxxxxxxx wrote:

the function is a pointer pointing on a baseobject, but somewhere this chain of pointer madness
has to end, in my example it ends at result = BaseObject::Alloc(Oplane);. i thought it works this
way :

1. GetVirtualObjects is called
2. GetVirtualObjects calls GetPlane
3. GetPlane allocates some memory at adress xyz and creates a BaseObject there
4. GetPlane returns xyz
5. GetVirtualObjects is called again
6. GetVirtualObjects calls GetSphere

what happens with the BaseObject @ memory adress xyz ?

i guess i am geting something wrong again

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On 02/04/2012 at 02:21, xxxxxxxx wrote:

In the SDK are often notes that say "Cinema 4D owns the pointed/returned object." which means Cinema will manage the memory of the object. I can't find such a note in the ObjectData::GetVirtualObjects() documentation. They either forgot to add it or you have to manage that on your own, i.e. cache the object and free it on the next call to GetVirtualObjects(). I haven't written a C++ plugin yet, (as I said, I refuse to use VC. ).

Cheers,
-Niklas

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On 02/04/2012 at 02:37, xxxxxxxx wrote:

uh i made a mis take in my example, when i shortend the code, it has to be

static BaseObject * ~~Opolylight::~~ GetPlane(BaseObject *op)
    
    {
    
    	BaseObject *result = NULL;
    
    	result = BaseObject::Alloc(Oplane);
    
      
    
    
    	BaseContainer *outbc = result->GetDataInstance();
    
    	BaseContainer *inbc = op->GetDataInstance();
    
      
    
    
    	...
    
    	return result;
    
    }

of course.

  


@ nikklas

  


i am not talking about GetVirtualObjects, it is called on each update and there are examples in 

the sdk how to treat cases in which GetVirtualObject fails to produce a propper output (free

the memory).

  


but i have firgured it out somehow i guess, i have just to create some kind of garbagecollector 

method which clears all the unused static pointer method adresses. i'll report back when i fail again :)

  


ps : refusing to praise & and use microsoft products is considered to be a mortal sin by the spanish

inquisition.

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On 02/04/2012 at 05:27, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Whatever object you return in GetVirtualObjects(), don't care about its memory anymore. Cinema takes over the ownership.

If you allocate an object but don't return it at the end of GetVirtualObjects(), you have to free it yourself of course.

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On 02/04/2012 at 08:44, xxxxxxxx wrote:

hi,

and here i am again, i tried to check my code so i placed a c4d_debug.txt in my c4d folder.
first i started c4d from the desktop and the console window said meh, debugger not present
so i started c4d from vs using my project (which compiles and runs fine atm), c4d crashes again
with the exception floating point division by zero. so i tried the sdk_examples with the 32 bit debug
platform. it starts without any errors, but the console doesn't show up, not while debugging, not after.

i am on vista 64 bit, c4d demo 32 bit and VS 8.0.5

has someone experience with this odd behaviour ?

sorry, for throwing random questions at you

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On 02/04/2012 at 22:05, xxxxxxxx wrote:

for the Console to show up you need to set the startup directory in VS to the c4d folder (project properties -> debugging). Else it won't find the c4d_debug.txt
or you put the c4d_debug.txt in the plugin's folder