PoseMorph tag always increases GetDirty() counter

Helper

On 14/08/2017 at 09:53, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Just a wild guess. Is the tag in edit mode?

Helper

On 14/08/2017 at 10:07, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Minimal code:

void DoRecursion(BaseObject *op, BaseDocument * doc)
{
	if (!op) return;
  
	UInt32 dirty_x = op->GetHDirty(HDIRTYFLAGS_OBJECT);
	UInt32 dirty_y = op->GetDirty(DIRTYFLAGS_DATA);
	UInt32 dirty_z = op->GetDirty(DIRTYFLAGS_CACHE);
  
	BaseObject * tp1 = op->GetDeformCache();
	BaseObject * tp2 = op->GetCache();
  
	LONG pcnt = 0;
	if (op->IsInstanceOf(Opolygon))	{
		PolygonObject * pobj = ToPoly(op);
		pcnt = pobj->GetPolygonCount();
	}
  
	BaseContainer * icnt = op->GetDataInstance();
	BaseObject * ires = icnt != 0 ? icnt->GetObjectLink(INSTANCEOBJECT_LINK, doc) : 0;
  
	printf("\n [%3d]:%4d dirty [%3d:%3d:%3d] tp %3d %3d %3d %3d name [%s] n %d",
		int(op) % 1000,
		op->GetType() % 10000,
		dirty_x,
		dirty_y,
		dirty_z,
		int(tp1) % 1000,
		int(tp2) % 1000,
		int(op->GetDown()) % 1000,
		int(ires) % 1000,
		op->GetName().GetCStringCopy(), pcnt);
  
	if (tp1)  
	{ 
		DoRecursion(tp1, doc); 
	} 
	else  
	{ 
		if (tp2)    
		{ 
			DoRecursion(tp2, doc); 
		} 
		else    
		{ 
			if (!op->GetBit(BIT_CONTROLOBJECT))     
			{ 
			//	if (op->IsInstanceOf(Opolygon))        
			//	{ ... } 
			} 
		} 
	}  
	
	for (BaseObject * tp = op->GetDown(); tp; tp = tp->GetNext())  
		DoRecursion(tp, doc);
}
  
void test_on_timer()
{
	BaseDocument * doc = GetActiveDocument();
	if (!doc) return;
  
	for (BaseObject * tp = doc->GetFirstObject(); tp; tp = tp->GetNext()) {
		if (tp != 0)
			DoRecursion(tp, doc);
	}
}

Printf result:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzlzfh6viiqjjme/printf.jpg?dl=0

As you see the caches are changed (their dirty flags) and pointers to them. All this happens after mouse clicks without object changes. How to fix?

Helper

On 14/08/2017 at 11:38, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

Just a wild guess. Is the tag in edit mode?

Yes. It's in Edit mode. In Edit mode any click in a scene (or any selection of any object) forces the dirty flags to update. Most bad is update of spline->GetDirty(DIRTYFLAGS_DATA).
If not in Edit mode the situation is a little bit better. Only when user clicks on the spline object (makes it selected) then the spline->GetDirty(DIRTYFLAGS_DATA) is also updated.

I rely on these dirty flags as I need o make robust interactive rendering process while modeling whithout reloading geometry when it's not really needed (when nothing really changed).

Helper

On 14/08/2017 at 11:42, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Just a quick tip (aside from your problem)
I'd recommend you to use the active object dialog (it comes with the c4dsdk)
There you'll find pointers, handles, flags, etc. in a nicely sorted way.

Helper

On 14/08/2017 at 12:13, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Thanks for reminding me about this sample from SDK. I have already remoted from it and fogotten. But still it shows the same thing. Addresses and dirty flags of the scene.
I have tested a couple of render engines with IPR modes and it's the same. They restart render on mouse click on any object

Helper

On 23/08/2017 at 09:41, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Aaron, sorry for getting back so late here.

I confirm the behavior you mentioned and I also spotted similar behavior in other renderers. The PoseMorph Tag actually delivers this behavior by-design in order to achieve the desired functionality.

At the same time you can consider on computing the CRC32 checksum (look at ZipFile::CalcCRC32()) of the array storing the vertexes of the cache in order to avoid false-positive updates.
I've tested here and I'd say it plays good enough although you should expect some marginal overheads in terms of interactivity.

Best, Riccardo

Helper

On 20/09/2017 at 13:40, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Riccardo, thanks for advice, I use a similar thing (with a different implementation) for different other things as the last method in the world. It's hard to avoid this method for matrix updates in a highly dynamic scene graph with many possible connections and dependecies. But certainly we wanted to avoid such a not very elegant method for mesh data which could contain millions (dozens of millions) of vertices/normals/UVs and etc.
I suggest C4D developers to fix this issue and make Cinema a bit more clever on dirty/updates department.

Thanks,
Aaron

Helper

On 20/09/2017 at 14:09, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Btw, how to get the array of UVWStructs as elements of UVWTag?
From what I have seen the usage is UVWStruct uvw = uvwtag->GetSlow(i). This is not array but a class member call for each element (i.e. slow).

Helper

On 21/09/2017 at 03:11, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Aaron, with reference to the UVWTag I suggest to have a look at the UVWTag Manual where fast access to UVWTag is explained in detail.

Best, Riccardo

Helper

On 21/09/2017 at 05:36, xxxxxxxx wrote:

It works like this:

uvwData = UVWTag::Get(handle, i);
UVWTag::Set(handle, i, uvwData);

But do you have some access to array of UVs?
uvwData = uvw_array[4 * i + poly_id]?

There are such arrays for vertices, polygon_to_vertex indices, normals and no UVW. Why?

Helper

On 27/09/2017 at 05:24, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Aaron94, thanks for writing us.

I partially disagree because although vertices and polygon-to-vertex indices are stored as plain arrays, normals and UVW are actually residing in tags which among all the things let the user define multiple set of values rather than a single one (as for vertices and poly-vertex indexes). On top of that even using the VariableTag::GetLowLevelDataAddressR() or (VariableTag::GetLowLevelDataAddressW()[URL-REMOVED]) makes no real difference since to retrieve the desired values you should invoke UVWTag::Get().

Long story short the existing API (to access the UVWStruct) is the only (and best)-way to go.
Best, Riccardo

PS: For the future I also warmly invite you to post questions on subjects different from the topic on a new thread.

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Helper

On 29/09/2017 at 08:30, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Thanks Riccardo! I just analize all possible opportunities of C4D API to improve solutions to our tasks.

As for not openning other thread, then excuse me please. Here you have offered a workaround that can be directly applicable to some data of mesh (vertices, polygons) and I have asked if the similar solution is hidden in API for UVs. No, ok. Then we can collect data into own array.

Why I think accessing UVs through the wrapper is not efficient? Simply because I care about tiny performance bits too after I had practice with asm coding