Manually login in in both commandline/c4dpy works. As that is what we are doing now on all render nodes when the licenses vanish yet again.

Thanks!

when the command does fail for you, this probably means that there is either something wrong with your account/credentials or that the terminal login is broken for the Commandline app on MacOS. I find it a bit odd that you seem to indicate that the login works for the c4dpy app on MacOs but for the Commandline app it does not.

This is how it will look like when you try to login with a federated account and the terminal login then failing:

You should reach out to user support

Cheers,
Ferdinand

I will give the command a go Today and see how it goes. Thanks for the help regardless that it was outside of scope

Well, with your command on MacOS I basically get a wall of text but it does finish. However when I then manually run the C4D commandline again I get the standard "Enter the license method:" window

When I run it in c4dpy it ends on "Welcome to the world of C4D and python (....)" and >>>.

Cheers,

The terminology is here a bit unfortunate, and I was also a bit sloppy with it in my posting (fixed that). Let us make a clear distinction between the 'Commandline' (the Cinema 4D app, not as a term for the shell of an OS) and the terminal or shell of an OS (e.g., CMD. PowerShell on Windows, or just Shell on Mac). If you are already regularly logging in via the shell/terminal, this script should work.

But if that would be the case, you probably would not have asked this question, started this topic. As I said, I would just try to manually login with the command I have shown above. And if that does not work, reach out to our end user support. I would also remind you to what I pointed out in the script:

Note that Maxon Account as a login model has been deprecated in 2024. e, Google, or Facebook. In the GUI of the Cinema 4D license manager it has been removed altogether, in the terminal it is still available.

For federated accounts the terminal login never worked, but maybe they have added more restrictions since 2023.2, blocked certain IP ranges or god knows what else. End user support can help you here

Cheers,
Ferdinand

Thanks for adding the SDK info and also thanks for the hints, I will investigate further. We normally log in to Maxon accounts via the commandline or via the login window in Cinema, so it should work I imagine.

Regarding the docs, I simply forgot to add stuff on the SDK side. Thank you for the hint, I will add it now.

Regarding your problems with logging in: My script just automates some shell commands and there is no difference between the apps (c4d, cmdline, c4dpy, t-server, t-client) regarding login, when it works with one, it will work with all. I just tested my script, and for me it still works with 2023.2.2 and also in 2024.2.0. Here I ran c4dpy with a script printing Hello World!:

To get a better sense of what is going wrong, just run the following command in the shell of your choice after filling in your data:

[PATH] g_licenseModel=LICENSEMODEL::MAXONACCOUNT g_licenseUsername=[HANDLE] g_licensePassword=[PASSWORD]

e.g.,
c:\"program files"\maxon\2024.2.0\commandline.exe g_licenseModel=LICENSEMODEL::MAXONACCOUNT g_licenseUsername=bob@builder.net g_licensePassword=MyFancyPassword

When your login fails (wall of text), it either means your credentials are invalid or that you have a federated login. A federated login is any login that redirects you away from our id.maxon.net plugin page to a third party page to fill in your credentials. The usual suspects are here Apple, Google, and Facebook:

But there are also some non-public federated logins, if you have one you should know. As explained in my first posting, federated logins are simply not supported by the terminal logins, it cannot deal with the redirects.

And as also already stated, please contact end-user-support about any issues you might have with logins, this is simply not an SDK issue.

Cheers,
Ferdinand

• When I run both the commandline and c4dpy the terminal goes into some kind of endless loop on one of the MacOS rendernodes, it just keeps going endlessly with the same wall of text.
• When I run just the commandline part it ends, but the license info doesn't seem to be inputted. As when I then manually run the commandline afterwards it asks for license info again.
• When I run just the c4dpy part it also goes into an endless loop spouting the same wall of text over and over again.

You mentioned in your reply "and we will also expose it in the technical and user documentation (in fact a few things should be updated there)." but I can't find anything in the SDK documentation about "g_license", just one quick mention in c4dpy about passing username and password as arguments.

I will read up on the material you provided and implement the code example into our own code.

As always you've been very helpful

Cheers,

Joep

so, after some digging, here is how you can do this.

1. In general, we cannot support interacting with our logins by emulating user inputs.
2. But you can use the command line arguments which are documented here and in more detail here.
3. There is/was a missing puzzle piece to all this in form of g_licenseModel, which before has been a private argument and therefore cannot be found in the technical SDK documentation I linked to above or the command line user documentation. I have documented the argument below, and we will also expose it in the technical and user documentation (in fact a few things should be updated there).

Note: This thread was unrelated to the Cinema 4D SDK (and therefore technically out of scope of support). Please post such questions in General Talk in the future. I have moved this thread. And while it is understandable that you were seeking support in this case, the SDK group cannot provide support for generic pipelining issues. You should reach out to end user support for them.

Cheers,
Ferdinand

Code:

"""Demonstrates how to login into any Cinema 4D application (Cinema 4D, c4dpy, commandline, 
Team Render) using command line arguments.
"""

import os
import subprocess

def run_c4d(
        appPath: str, filePath: str, args: tuple[str] = ()) -> subprocess.CompletedProcess:
    """Runs a Cinema 4D app at the given #appPath with the given command line #args.

    Optionally one can pass a #filePath to load a file into the app (*.c4d, *.py, *.bmp, etc.).
    """
    if not os.path.exists(appPath) or not os.path.isfile(appPath):
        raise OSError(f"The path '{appPath = }' does not exist or is not a file.")
    if filePath != "" and (not os.path.exists(filePath) or not os.path.isfile(filePath)):
        raise OSError(f"The path '{filePath = }' does not exist or is not a file.")
    
    return subprocess.run([appPath, filePath] + list(args))

def main() -> None:
    """Runs the example.
    """
    # Some example apps to run.
    cmdlineApp: str = "c:\\program files\\maxon\\2023.2.2\\commandline.exe"
    c4dpyApp: str = "c:\\program files\\maxon\\2023.2.2\\c4dpy.exe"

    # Provide our credentials for a Maxon Account login. This only works with non-federated accounts,
    # i.e., logins that are not forwarded to Apple, Google, or Facebook. Note that Maxon Account as 
    # a login model has been deprecated in 2024. In the GUI of the Cinema 4D license manager it has
    # been removed altogether, in the terminal it is still available.
    userLogin: list[str] = [
        # The license model we are using.
        # Other values for LICENSEMODEL:
        #   ::LICENSESERVER - Maxon License Server
        #   ::RLM           - RLM License Server
        #   ::MAXONAPP      - Maxon App
        "g_licenseModel=LICENSEMODEL::MAXONACCOUNT",
        # The credentials.
        "g_licenseUsername=user@domain.net", 
        "g_licensePassword=password1234"
    ]

    # Run the commandline app.
    res: subprocess.CompletedProcess = run_c4d(
        cmdlineApp, "", userLogin)
    if (res.stderr):
        raise RuntimeError(f"Terminated on process error: {res.stderr}")

    # Run the c4dpy app.
    res: subprocess.CompletedProcess = run_c4d(
        c4dpyApp, "c:\\users\\f_hoppe\\desktop\\my_script.py", userLogin)
    if (res.stderr):
        raise RuntimeError(f"Terminated on process error: {res.stderr}")

    
if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

Cheers,
Joep

I understand your motivation and it is understandable. The legal aspect is not about you owning the licenses or not. For further details, I would still have to ask you to wait until I have talked with my colleagues.

Cheers,
Ferdinand

As for the legal aspects (the following is my personal opinion), what do you mean exactly?
We pay for licenses and we don't want the inconvenience of having to manually go through all render clients when the licensing system fails us yet again.
These actions (inputting license information on all commandline clients in our farm) cost man hours which can be more effectively spent working for clients rather than working around a needlessly cumbersome system.
There is no effective difference between me manually inputting the information on a client and doing it in an automated fashion with a piece of code.

That being said, if I'm missing something else here please feel free to correct my thinking.

Cheers,
Joep

Thank you for reaching out to us. I will answer here within this week, but I must deliberate with my colleagues first, as I am unsure about both legal and technical aspects of what you are trying to do here.

Cheers,
Ferdinand